![]() ![]() On the Hoyt side if you want an easy to shoot, light, forgiving bow I'd recommend a used carbon matrix or if you feel like throwing down big $$$ the new carbon matrix g3. Even though the brace height on the vector turbo is shorter than the z7 xtreme I still find it more of a joy to shoot because of the long ata.think this year they are calling it the spyder turbo.I wanted speed but easy shooting. I went from an ATA of 28" to a litte over 35" and simply will not go back.ΔΆ factors of easy bow shooting are a longer ATA and long BH. Longer ATA bow's are simply easier to shoot. Last year I went from a 2011 mathews z7 xtreme to a 2012 hoyt vector turbo and LOVE the change. Originally Posted By: WildBill3/75Like was said earlier, archerytalk forum has a massive ammount of information for you. This is just another thing to further consider and confuse you. So it comes down to what's important to you. But the #3 will draw noticeably smoother then the #2. But also, the #2 cam will be a tad faster than the #3. What is your draw length? There are different cams for different draw lengths, and while the two bows use the same cams, depending on DL you could need a #2 cam on the Spyder and a #3 cam on the Element, to be most efficient. But the salesman is right in that the G3 Element is 2" longer ATA, therefore a bit more forgiving. I don't feel the carbon is worth the extra money. So you have to be the one to decide for yourself. Everybody who shoots these bows will have different opinions. I felt the Spyder was actually quieter, and it definitely had less vibration at the shot for me. But if I was looking for shorter, the Spyder 30 would be it. I personally like longer ATA bows, so I got a Spyder 34. I have shot both of those bows, bare bows, side by side. So, is the carbon G3 really worth the extra $500? ![]() i have been to the shop 4 times now, and have tried all the bows. This isn't a "you should reconsider the X brand blah blah blah". I am more concerned with shoot-ability, forgiveness and quietness than FPS, draw weights, 'i am a badass cuz i have a 70lb bow that goes 340.65 FPS i can hardly shoot accurately' etc. so i went back today fresh, flung a few from each, and settled on the hoyts. I have shot both of them back to back, but after trying the 2 hoyts, bowtech insanity and experience, and the mathews 'i have no idea top of the line for $900', they all just kinda blend after 2 hours. Now i am looking to get with the times i guess. i would group all 6 arrows into a 2" circle at 30 yds. Granted, it has been 7 years since i shot a bow continually. i know, i am a dinosaur! (from what the shop owner said lol). I have previously been shooting a jennings buckmaster with fingers since '97. this will be my first bow using a release. I have narrowed down my pic to the hoyt carbon element G3, or the spyder 30. ![]()
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